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	<description>by Stephen E. Arnold</description>
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		<title>By: SaaS Users Need a New Mindset &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2008/11/26/enterprise-20-when-enterprise-10-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-31795</link>
		<dc:creator>SaaS Users Need a New Mindset &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zemanta Zoho CRM Enterprise Edition @ SMB Price 7 habits of an &quot;Actual&quot; Web 2.0 Service Enterprise 2.0 When Enterprise 1.0 Doesn&#039;t Work Is Google Ever Going To Come Out of Beta? 55% of Google&#039;s Products Aren&#039;t in Beta Half baked: 45 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Zemanta Zoho CRM Enterprise Edition @ SMB Price 7 habits of an &quot;Actual&quot; Web 2.0 Service Enterprise 2.0 When Enterprise 1.0 Doesn&#8217;t Work Is Google Ever Going To Come Out of Beta? 55% of Google&#8217;s Products Aren&#8217;t in Beta Half baked: 45 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen E. Arnold</title>
		<link>http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2008/11/26/enterprise-20-when-enterprise-10-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-31582</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen E. Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

My concern about Enterprise 2.0 is that it is a marketing buzzword and not defined in a consistent manner. As a result, organizations want to know more, and the carpet baggers arrive and sell a wide range of solutions that are really the foundation stones of unknown, uncosted challenges after the expert has returned to his / her lair. So, I wanted someone to say &quot;group editing&quot; and slip the marketing baloney. So I quack away here among the reeds in Harrods Creek.

Stephen Arnold, December 1, 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>My concern about Enterprise 2.0 is that it is a marketing buzzword and not defined in a consistent manner. As a result, organizations want to know more, and the carpet baggers arrive and sell a wide range of solutions that are really the foundation stones of unknown, uncosted challenges after the expert has returned to his / her lair. So, I wanted someone to say &#8220;group editing&#8221; and slip the marketing baloney. So I quack away here among the reeds in Harrods Creek.</p>
<p>Stephen Arnold, December 1, 2009</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of sales analytics and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lucidera.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sales metrics&lt;/a&gt; tools available, which is mainly centered on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lucidera.com/application/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Saas Business intelligence&lt;/a&gt;. The above news is a good indication and can hope that the business analytics tools are going in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of sales analytics and <a href="http://www.lucidera.com" rel="nofollow">sales metrics</a> tools available, which is mainly centered on <a href="http://www.lucidera.com/application/index.php" rel="nofollow">Saas Business intelligence</a>. The above news is a good indication and can hope that the business analytics tools are going in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2 0 Heroes Interviews with 20 Web 2 0 Influencers &#124; blogstuffnow.com</title>
		<link>http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2008/11/26/enterprise-20-when-enterprise-10-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-31529</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2 0 Heroes Interviews with 20 Web 2 0 Influencers &#124; blogstuffnow.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Enterprise 2.0 When Enterprise 1.0 Doesn&#8217;t Work [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stephen E. Arnold</title>
		<link>http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2008/11/26/enterprise-20-when-enterprise-10-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-31182</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen E. Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daria,

I am deeply suspicious of Boston and the companies with offices in that intellectual fantasy land. I know a tiny bit about Attivio, and you can find an interview with the founder of Attivio on Arnoldit.com in the Search Wizards Speak series. I also have written semi-acceptable articles about Attivio. But the only thing that makes me more nervous that Boston&#039;s intellectual fantasy land is a Web log. I don&#039;t even read this Web log. In fact, why are you reading the notes of an addled goose? Read the much better stuff from the third tier consulting firms faux experts. I&#039;m 65 and over the hill.

Stephen Arnold, November 27, 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daria,</p>
<p>I am deeply suspicious of Boston and the companies with offices in that intellectual fantasy land. I know a tiny bit about Attivio, and you can find an interview with the founder of Attivio on Arnoldit.com in the Search Wizards Speak series. I also have written semi-acceptable articles about Attivio. But the only thing that makes me more nervous that Boston&#8217;s intellectual fantasy land is a Web log. I don&#8217;t even read this Web log. In fact, why are you reading the notes of an addled goose? Read the much better stuff from the third tier consulting firms faux experts. I&#8217;m 65 and over the hill.</p>
<p>Stephen Arnold, November 27, 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Daria</title>
		<link>http://arnoldit.com/wordpress/2008/11/26/enterprise-20-when-enterprise-10-doesnt-work/comment-page-1/#comment-31148</link>
		<dc:creator>Daria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen, do check out Andrew McAfee&#039;s blog. It a great source of information on Enterprise 2.0. In fact, as far as I know he was the one to invent the term.
Here&#039;s another blog that you might be interested in checking out http://www.wrike.com/projectmanagement It&#039;s written by Andrew Filev, who expresses his views on Enterprise 2.0 in various spheres of corporate life, particularly project management. 
By the way, I really enjoyed your post. I&#039;ll point Andrew to it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen, do check out Andrew McAfee&#8217;s blog. It a great source of information on Enterprise 2.0. In fact, as far as I know he was the one to invent the term.<br />
Here&#8217;s another blog that you might be interested in checking out <a href="http://www.wrike.com/projectmanagement" rel="nofollow">http://www.wrike.com/projectmanagement</a> It&#8217;s written by Andrew Filev, who expresses his views on Enterprise 2.0 in various spheres of corporate life, particularly project management.<br />
By the way, I really enjoyed your post. I&#8217;ll point Andrew to it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kellogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Kellogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 16:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stephen, while I&#039;m generally as skeptical as you are about the whole 2.0 thing, I believe that Harvard Business School professor Andrew McAfee does a good on the Enterprise 2.0 concept.  

Admittedly, he takes things from the business perspective so he doesn&#039;t have the technical breadth problem that you describe.  His blog is here, check it out:  http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/

The fun part of his work, to me, is that he&#039;s a pretty technical guy working on management of technology in a top business school.  Too rarely, in my opinion, do b-schools do real work and real teaching in the management of technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stephen, while I&#8217;m generally as skeptical as you are about the whole 2.0 thing, I believe that Harvard Business School professor Andrew McAfee does a good on the Enterprise 2.0 concept.  </p>
<p>Admittedly, he takes things from the business perspective so he doesn&#8217;t have the technical breadth problem that you describe.  His blog is here, check it out:  <a href="http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.hbs.edu/faculty/amcafee/</a></p>
<p>The fun part of his work, to me, is that he&#8217;s a pretty technical guy working on management of technology in a top business school.  Too rarely, in my opinion, do b-schools do real work and real teaching in the management of technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tunkelang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Tunkelang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 06:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, I know you&#039;re not a fan of SAP, but if you&#039;re interested in a substantive take on &quot;Enterprise 2.0&quot;, you might appreciate this report from their 2007 International Research Forum: http://www.sap.com/about/company/research/irf/pdf/IRF2007_Book.pdf. It&#039;s not perfect, but it&#039;s much better than most of the drivel out there on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, I know you&#8217;re not a fan of SAP, but if you&#8217;re interested in a substantive take on &#8220;Enterprise 2.0&#8243;, you might appreciate this report from their 2007 International Research Forum: <a href="http://www.sap.com/about/company/research/irf/pdf/IRF2007_Book.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sap.com/about/company/research/irf/pdf/IRF2007_Book.pdf</a>. It&#8217;s not perfect, but it&#8217;s much better than most of the drivel out there on the subject.</p>
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