Lucid Meet Up: Open Source Search Draws Crowd

June 23, 2009

I was in San Francisco the day of the open source Lucene meet up sponsored by Lucid Imagination. The New Idea Engineering Web log wrote a useful summary of what transpired. You can find “Impressions of First Lucene / Solr Meet Up” on the Enterprise Search Blog. Keep in mind that the founders of the Enterprise Search Blog liked the study “Successful Enterprise Search Management” Martin White and I wrote. People who like what I do may have unusual tolerance for addled geese. You have been warned.

I noted the upside and downside of a technical meet up, but I wanted to know more. I chased down David Fishman, one of the spark plugs for Lucid Imagination. You can read an interview with one of the founders of  Lucid Imagination, Marc Krellenstein, in the ArnoldIT.com “Search Wizards Speak” series.

I came away from my discussion with Mr. Fishman more than a little impressed. Some of the items that remained pinned to my brain’s search bulletin board warrant sharing.

First, open source is hot. Few information technology professionals want to go to a meeting about search without first hand information about Apache Lucene (http://lucene.apache.org/) and Solr.

Second, Lucid Imagination (www.lucidimagination.com) is gaining traction with its industrial strength approach to the open source search technology that promises relief from the seven figure licensing fees imposed by some of the high profile search and retrieval vendors.

The meet up brought together almost 50 engineers and programmers on June 3. Featured speakers included Grant Ingersoll, of Lucid Imagination, and of the Apache Lucene project development team, as well as Erik Hatcher, author of Lucene in Action, of the Apache Lucene project development team, and with Ingersoll, a co-founder of Lucid Imagination. Jason Rutherglen and Jake Mannix of Linked-In talked about how they’ve implemented search at the core of their cutting edge social network. Other speakers talked about a wide range of deep search questions, from numeric search, aka Trie Range queries. Avi Rappoport, a search consultant, talked about the approach to “stop words” — encouraging search application developers not to ignore words like “the”, “in”, and the like given the power of today’s compute resources to deal with such nuances.

Back to Lucid: Grant Ingersoll’s talk focused on innovations in Solr 1.4, the forthcoming release of the search platform built around the Lucene Search engine. While there are a good number of important new features, including Trie-range queries for better searching of numeric data, and advanced replication and better logging for improved scalability and deployment, that’s just the latest in a string of enterprise grade innovations that the open source community has rolled together, closing the gap with many, if not most, of the meaningful technology features of commercial enterprise search software. Erik Hatcher spoke about a new search engine for search developers (http://search.lucidimagination.com) that Lucid sponsors for the community, using Lucene and Solr technology to plow through the abundant discussions and technical info created over the years — providing faster troubleshooting and education than programmers could get before.

There were three takeaways from the meeting, according to David Fishman, who does marketing for Lucid Imagination. The breadth and depth of the search problem set means that it’s not going to be solved by one company or one set of people; the active, engaged open source community is constantly adding and innovating new features, putting them through their paces, and pushing the frontier faster than any single company could.

The technology upon which open source search rests is as good or maybe better than some of the commercial products’ code base. Many hands and many eyes mean that the gotchas hiding in some of the high profile brands’ products are not going to jump out and bite an administrator.

That demand is real: innovative companies, as different as IBM, Zappos, Netflix, Linked In, Digg, AOL, MySpace, Apple, Comcast Interactive and more — all these have built mission critical search services at the core of their business using this technology. The people who came to this meet up, and one just like it two weeks earlier in Reston Virginia (http://www.meetup.com/NOVA-Lucene-Solr-Meetup/) are part of that rapidly accelerating adoption curve, since there’s no need to call a salesperson or schedule a demo to get started — the community lowers the barriers to experimentation and participation.

Not least important is what wasn’t covered, said Fishman. Innovation is half the battle; the other, reliability. As Mark Bennett observed on his blog , this meet up was not the crowd that keeps datacenter and IT managers sleeping soundly through the night. Commercial grade reliability comes from a commercial-grade company with the expertise to help get it working and keep it working. And having talked to the Lucid Imagination team, they not only “get” search. They “get” service level agreements. That’ may be one reason why they’re in the business of offering commercial grade support for these technologies.

To sum up, what strikes me as new is that Lucid’s pool of engineers is available to help — many of them, the same engineers who help write the code and manage the innovations with the Apache Lucene community. What the IT guys get by working with Lucid is the combination of innovation with peace of mind and better control of customization and maintenance.

My hunch is that a company with a search system is going to invest in professional services for  support no matter what search solution you deploy. Even if open source makes it easy to get search, it takes expertise to get search right.

If I know Marc Krellenstein, the Lucid Imagination team will be able to deliver that expertise at competitive rates. Certainly, the range of companies represented suggest that open source search is moving toward center stage.

Can open source search gain traction in the enterprise? The answer: In some organizations, the answer is, “Yes.”
Open source search is here and Lucene/Solr promises to push beyond simple search and retrieval.

Stephen Arnold, June 23, 2009

Comments

2 Responses to “Lucid Meet Up: Open Source Search Draws Crowd”

  1. Otis Gospodnetic on June 24th, 2009 9:09 am

    In my opinion, Lucene (and now Solr) are software *many* companies would not exist without and I’m happy to see the enterprise (and not just “consumer-oriented” businesses and ventures from the web 2.0 era) are discovering this goodness.

    Please note that Erik and I try to make sure we always use the word co-author when mentioning Lucene in Action. Example: http://www.sematext.com/about.html

    In your opinion, does this new positioning of Lucene/Lucid present any kind of worry to any of the old commercial enterprise search players, maybe the second tier ones? Thanks.

  2. Avi Rappoport, Search Tools Consulting on June 25th, 2009 5:50 pm

    There was a lot of impressive technical know-how and enthusiasm at that meeting, it was a pleasure to be there. Open-source search will be the first implementation of a lot of really interesting new technology, and there’s going to be one that’s wildly successful. I look forward to watching that play out.

    Mark did a great write-up, and I don’t know why I missed it before, thanks for linking and quoting it. But the URL goes to your 404 page, the correct URL is http://www.enterprisesearchblog.com/2009/06/-impressions-of-first-lucenesolr-sf-meetup.html

    Also thanks for spelling my name right,

    Avi

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