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	<title>Comments on: Forrester and Enterprise Content Management</title>
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	<description>by Stephen E. Arnold</description>
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		<title>By: Hakan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hakan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it would be insightful for you to read the following:
http://hakanakbas.blogspot.com/2009/08/consolidation-in-enterprise-content_574.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it would be insightful for you to read the following:<br />
<a href="http://hakanakbas.blogspot.com/2009/08/consolidation-in-enterprise-content_574.html" rel="nofollow">http://hakanakbas.blogspot.com/2009/08/consolidation-in-enterprise-content_574.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Otis Gospodnetic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otis Gospodnetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 16:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find interesting is that 3 of 4 of the above mentioned companies use Lucene under their hood.
* ECM uses Lucene (or Solr?) in their Documentum(?) product
* IBM uses Lucene in one of the OmniFind editions
* Oracle uses Lucene through its purchase of TripleHop several years ago (http://www.oracle.com/triplehop/index.html)

I don&#039;t know about Open Text, but I would not be surprised if they, too, used Lucene or something free and Lucene-like under the hood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find interesting is that 3 of 4 of the above mentioned companies use Lucene under their hood.<br />
* ECM uses Lucene (or Solr?) in their Documentum(?) product<br />
* IBM uses Lucene in one of the OmniFind editions<br />
* Oracle uses Lucene through its purchase of TripleHop several years ago (<a href="http://www.oracle.com/triplehop/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/triplehop/index.html</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about Open Text, but I would not be surprised if they, too, used Lucene or something free and Lucene-like under the hood.</p>
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		<title>By: sperky undernet</title>
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		<dc:creator>sperky undernet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume your take is that Forrester, as well as the others, are marketing, rather than analyzing. I hope so. Because if they are trying to analyze and they come up with results like these *at whatever the cost* to them or to us - the significance is that they are not succeeding in getting even &quot;good enough&quot; results. 

Or is this a case of the freebie that doesn&#039;t contain enough meat to whet the appetite of the potential purchaser of the $1749 report? For instance, *eight*  vendors are mentioned discussing the same report at:
http://www.contentmanagement.net/ibm-oracle-open-text-dominate-a-recent-enterprise-content-manahement-report-released-by-forrester-research.php 
This is more informative than Forrester&#039;s own listing
http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/wave%26trade%3B_enterprise_content_management_suites%2C_q4_2009/q/id/48033/t/2

So, is this not good enough PR for a not good enough report? Or not good enough PR for a good enough report?

How nice it would be to have an Overflight service comparing industry market research reports - oh... -  maybe it already *replaces* them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume your take is that Forrester, as well as the others, are marketing, rather than analyzing. I hope so. Because if they are trying to analyze and they come up with results like these *at whatever the cost* to them or to us &#8211; the significance is that they are not succeeding in getting even &#8220;good enough&#8221; results. </p>
<p>Or is this a case of the freebie that doesn&#8217;t contain enough meat to whet the appetite of the potential purchaser of the $1749 report? For instance, *eight*  vendors are mentioned discussing the same report at:<br />
<a href="http://www.contentmanagement.net/ibm-oracle-open-text-dominate-a-recent-enterprise-content-manahement-report-released-by-forrester-research.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.contentmanagement.net/ibm-oracle-open-text-dominate-a-recent-enterprise-content-manahement-report-released-by-forrester-research.php</a><br />
This is more informative than Forrester&#8217;s own listing<br />
<a href="http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/wave%26trade%3B_enterprise_content_management_suites%2C_q4_2009/q/id/48033/t/2" rel="nofollow">http://www.forrester.com/rb/Research/wave%26trade%3B_enterprise_content_management_suites%2C_q4_2009/q/id/48033/t/2</a></p>
<p>So, is this not good enough PR for a not good enough report? Or not good enough PR for a good enough report?</p>
<p>How nice it would be to have an Overflight service comparing industry market research reports &#8211; oh&#8230; &#8211;  maybe it already *replaces* them.</p>
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